This comparison vid has apparently been around for ages, but I’ve only just seen it, probably because of the anniversary of the Dambuster’s raid this week. Had no idea Spielberg had crafted a homage to the original film.
Yeah Lucas used a lot of old movies for inspiration - some of the dog fights come from another movie almost frame for frame and you get the references to gunslingers, spaghetti westerns and some of those old samurai movies dueling it out (with laser swords). All the recent starwars stuff riffs on the same theory of story telling like the mandalorian being a direct rip off (sorry, i mean tribute) of Lone Wolf and Cub. I still have fond memories of seeing the blades pop out of the prams wheels . . . . or is that something i've imagined? What is it called? Munchhausen effect?
You could argue it all fits into the heroes journey narrative and that we only have seven stories (or whatever it is). Tarantino obviously is the modern equivalent of someone who loves cinema of old and puts his creative spin on it. Edgar Wright is a bit more subtle with his love of cinema tropes. It's probably hard to make a tribute to something without giving away the ending and people getting bored.
Loving pastiche and homage to cinema. Those 70s hollywood guys were essentially students of film. Everything they did had a reference , sometimes it was obvious and sometimes subtle. But like all good university papers you can easily check their references. You can check the references of other artists in a similar way, Manet is the main one you get taught about in art school. But you can do the same with other artists from Jack Kirby to Roy Lichtenstein, maybe not Pollock or Rothko. Douglas Adams Hitchhikers guide is essentially a primer on Plato's Republic and Aristotle's The Nicomachean Ethics which made learning Jurisprudence a lot easier for me at Uni.
on the subject of the raids: the We have ways of making you talk Podcast (https://wehavewayspod.com/) has a series on the raids. The boys drove into the Ruhr for that one.
Before the advent of the interwebs, there used to be an endless stream of copying in Australian art and music, and the artists would always pretend that they were super original. Tasmania was terrible for it, shouting choir , Amsterdam, never heard of it. Big red words saying tree in a field , Berlin doesn't exist. Arts grants for the same old shit, hand it over buddy. Now they don't know what to do, with everything a first result google search away
I don't know if this recent article was your entry point this, it's the 80 year anniversary of the raid. The original scale models of the dams that were used to brief the crews is going to be on display at the Australian War Memorial once the refurb is complete:
You may be cancelled for saying Spielberg lol
Yeah Lucas used a lot of old movies for inspiration - some of the dog fights come from another movie almost frame for frame and you get the references to gunslingers, spaghetti westerns and some of those old samurai movies dueling it out (with laser swords). All the recent starwars stuff riffs on the same theory of story telling like the mandalorian being a direct rip off (sorry, i mean tribute) of Lone Wolf and Cub. I still have fond memories of seeing the blades pop out of the prams wheels . . . . or is that something i've imagined? What is it called? Munchhausen effect?
You could argue it all fits into the heroes journey narrative and that we only have seven stories (or whatever it is). Tarantino obviously is the modern equivalent of someone who loves cinema of old and puts his creative spin on it. Edgar Wright is a bit more subtle with his love of cinema tropes. It's probably hard to make a tribute to something without giving away the ending and people getting bored.
i found the blades in the baby cart wheels - it was shogun assassin
I was hoping it was Sweeny Toddler from Whizzer and Chips.
*cough* Lucas *cough*
Yeah. of course.
Is this the time to say there are no new stories?
Lucas also famously borrowed from Dune . Borrowed is being kind. Cool vid though .
Loving pastiche and homage to cinema. Those 70s hollywood guys were essentially students of film. Everything they did had a reference , sometimes it was obvious and sometimes subtle. But like all good university papers you can easily check their references. You can check the references of other artists in a similar way, Manet is the main one you get taught about in art school. But you can do the same with other artists from Jack Kirby to Roy Lichtenstein, maybe not Pollock or Rothko. Douglas Adams Hitchhikers guide is essentially a primer on Plato's Republic and Aristotle's The Nicomachean Ethics which made learning Jurisprudence a lot easier for me at Uni.
on the subject of the raids: the We have ways of making you talk Podcast (https://wehavewayspod.com/) has a series on the raids. The boys drove into the Ruhr for that one.
and wasn't it the great Tom Lehrer who in his song Lobachevsky sang
Plagiarize,
Let no one else's work evade your eyes,
Remember why the good Lord made your eyes,
So don't shade your eyes,
But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize...
Only be sure always to call it please, "research".
Before the advent of the interwebs, there used to be an endless stream of copying in Australian art and music, and the artists would always pretend that they were super original. Tasmania was terrible for it, shouting choir , Amsterdam, never heard of it. Big red words saying tree in a field , Berlin doesn't exist. Arts grants for the same old shit, hand it over buddy. Now they don't know what to do, with everything a first result google search away
or 'homage', of course.
I don't know if this recent article was your entry point this, it's the 80 year anniversary of the raid. The original scale models of the dams that were used to brief the crews is going to be on display at the Australian War Memorial once the refurb is complete:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-16/act-world-war-two-dambusters-raid-eightieth-anniversary/102348188