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Formerly Known as Simon's avatar

There is a bit of a dirty feeling left in my mouth if i'm listening to music on youboob or something and it feeds me music that at first sounds kind of familiar and quite competent, almost enjoyable. Until i look a bit closer. And its created using AI. Sometimes you can't tell till you start looking on a search engine for the 'band'. Admittedly there are a lot of bands out there these days that sound "just like Led Zepp" or "just like 70s rock" or "just like Jim Morrison" but when AI is doing it i'm feeling a bit off about it. Like i've been duped by a snake oil salesman. I'm finding more and more of a distaste for the "feed" and inclined more along the lines of a bit more agency of self discovery, like the KEXP music channel. They support and introduce so many good bands from around the world that its almost like having that cool big brother that gave you your first album when you were young. Yes, i can see the irony in this just being another 'feed' but its at least of humans by humans and not an algorithm saying "hey, you liked this, here's something that x amount of people, profiled just like you, liked as well"

(btw i searched up that Dr Stickler and there seems to be at least some kind of online presence https://www.a4m.com/daniel-stickler.html but he uses the acronym AI a lot! I also have deep suspicions about his validity. He uses a lot of percentages but there are zero links to studies backing up his claims. Plus with an ad at the bottom for his AI health tool and lots of back patting in the comment section for people positively reinforcing his points. (for a start his advice around glycemic control is terrible for type1 diabetics)

These days we have to be careful we dont fall into the confirmation bias trap because it agrees with everything we think is right. Seems like such a murky world we have landed ourselves with and it just tires you out sometimes. To the point where in the smallest darkest hours you say to yourself "just put the chip in my head already. I'm over it all) :)

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John Birmingham's avatar

For some reason this reminds me of finding music that I've never heard before so it sounds completely fresh to me and thinking 'I've still got it. I'm with it. I'm hip' until I realise when I look at the band, they broke up back in 1997.

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Formerly Known as Simon's avatar

ha. Yeah - its worse when you look up more stuff from them and it has millions of listens/views and you seem to be the last one to have 'discovered them'. Where the hell was i when this was hitting its stride?

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Potato Shaped Man's avatar

Old man shouts at cloud.

Hilariously prophetic double meaning words from Time Traveler Matt Groening.

I feel like this is me more and more. LLMs and their hell born ilk are here to stay no matter what we do. Well, maybe we could start armed mobs and firebomb data centres, but I feel like that would do more harm that good. All those burning plastics are gonna be bad for the environment.

Co-pilot helpfully tries to edit my Word docs (I pay for an Office sub for personal use) and more often than not, I take it's advice. It started with correcting my spelling and now its trying grammar, but making it understand that's just how Eddie the Street Rat talks when in the presence of Mr Beswix, the Crime Lord, is difficult.

These machines have real value, especially in fields with enormous amounts of data. I feel like Chat GPT and cheating on interviews overshadows the actual usefulness of machines capable of examining literal mountains of data and churning out incredibly useful conclusions - especially in fields like medical diagnosis.

Unfortunately, capitalism drives deployment of dollars and right now, clicks and views drive advertising dollars so that is where the effort is placed. Click bait headlines and machine generated articles. We need more government funding pushing these machines to do actual useful stuff like model micro-plastic removal and so on.

Harks back to that post you did about who controls these machines. Should governments fund their own or purchase instances of their own? Governments can't regulate what they don't understand and I bet you'd have to look pretty far past the kooks to find someone who thinks LLMs and machines should be regulated and is willing to tell you how.

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Michael Barnes's avatar

My apologies I don't like posting links in your post, not sure why, partialy its due to a feeling that its rude to further demand peoples time to click and go see something when they have come to read/see your stuff. But the Oatmeal cartoonist just posed a comix on how AI art makes him feel and is aptly describes my own reactions and what you have elucidated above https://theoatmeal.com/comics/ai_art

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Justin's avatar

totally worth linking to this, I agree with his view 100% about art and also about writing.

I am interested in reading words written by humans, a little AI curation is OK, a lot of AI slop and essays that go on FOR EVA!!!! is not. get to the point....please.

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Michael Barnes's avatar

At the moment stories, either written or graphic generated from AI are in most cases generated by scrapping someone else's work without their permission, and consume disproportionate energy and water a cost not reflected in our current systems. Consequently if I can choose not to engage with AI generated material I won't. I realise that is getting harder to do that. Certainly the current US government's use of mind numbing white supremacist AI generated propaganda isn't encouraging me to get on board the AI train.

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sjg's avatar

I understand what you're saying about ai slop, but i still liked: Ichi-go Ichi-e

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w from brisbane's avatar

I was pleased to see that Amazon took firm steps a couple of years ago to staunch the flood of Ai books. Amazon created a new rule that limited the number of books that authors can self-publish on its site to three a day.

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Dave W's avatar

3 a day!? But that's even faster than George RR Martin cranks them out!

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